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Choose your water bottles very carefully in order to prevent chemicals in the plastic from leaching into your water.

Plastic water bottles are very convenient for carting water around when we are on the go, as they don't break if we drop them. However, it is worth paying attention to the type of plastic your water bottle is made of, to ensure that the chemicals in the plastic do not leach into the water. If you taste plastic, you are drinking it, so get yourself another bottle.

To be certain that you are choosing a bottle that does not leach, check the recycling symbol on your bottle. If it is a #2 HDPE (high density polyethylene), or a #4 LDPE (low density polyethylene), or a #5 PP (polypropylene), your bottle is fine. The type of plastic bottle in which water is usually sold is usually a #1, and is only recommended for one time use. Do not refill it. Better to use a reusable water bottle, and fill it with your own filtered water from home and keep these single-use bottles out of the landfill.

Unfortunately, those fabulous colourful hard plastic lexan bottles made with polycarbonate plastics and identified by the #7 recycling symbol, may leach BPA. Bisphenol A is a xenoestrogen, a known endocrine disruptor, meaning it disturbs the hormonal messaging in our bodies. Synthetic xenoestrogens are linked to breast cancer and uterine cancer in women, decreased testosterone levels in men, and are particularly devastating to babies and young children. BPA has even been linked to insulin resistance and Type 2 Diabetes. For more of the science on the effects of BPA on our endocrine system etc. see these studies: Environmental Health Perspectives Journal. Nalgene, the company that manufactures the lexan water bottles also makes #2 HDPE bottles in the same sizes and shapes, so we have a viable alternative. Order one at Nalgene.

Unfortunately, most plastic baby bottles and drinking cups are made with plastics containing Bisphenol A. In 2006 Europe banned all products made for children under age 3 containing BPA, and as of Dec. 2006 the city of San Franscisco followed suit. In March 2007 a billion-dollar class action suit was commenced against Gerber, Playtex, Evenflo, Avent, and Dr. Brown's in Los Angeles superior court for harm done to babies caused by drinking out of baby bottles and sippy cups containing BPA. So, to be certain that your baby is not exposed, use glass bottles.

Check the recycling numbers on all your plastic food containers as well, and gradually move to storing all food in glass or ceramic.

Store water in glass if possible, and out of direct sunlight.

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Alonso-Magdelena, Paloma; "The estrogenic effect of Bisphenol A disrupts pancreatic β-cell function in vivo and induces insulin resistance" Environmental Health Perspectives Vol. 114, No. 1, Jan. 2006.

Hunt,Patricia;"Bisphenol A Exposure Causes Meiotic Aneuploidy in the Female Mouse" Current Biology, Vol 14, 546-553, 1 April 2003.

vom Saal, Frederick and Hughes, Claude; "An Extensive New Literature Concerning Low-Dose Effects of Bisphenol A Shows the Need for a New Risk Assessment" Environmental Health Perspectives, Vol. 113, No. 8, August 2005.

Schonfelder, Gilbert et al.Parent Bisphenol A Accumulation in human maternal fetal placental unit Environmental Health Perspectives Vol. 110, No. 11, Nov. 2002.

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from Quora on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 12:42pm

Polycarbonates (recycle class 7) are frequently quoted as being possibly contaminated with BPA [1], a silent toxin that can cause severe hormonal imbalances [2].
Elastomers in plastics are also relatively dangerous, depending on the type. Here is an ex...

from coochicoos on Wed, 09/26/2007 - 11:23pm

In response to recent reports about chemicals in plastics leaching into your water, BabyLife has introduced WeeGo, a smart-looking glass baby bottle.  After all, using glass eliminates any concern of plastic leaching, plus the 100% colorful silico...

Comments (418)

Submitted by Su Kuik-Bray (not verified) on Sat, 06/16/2007 - 12:43am.

Great site.  Just wanted to respond quickly - came across your site while searching for safe refillable water bottles.

Thank you.  You're a kindred spirit.  My life has been in the context of a persuit for health (for my own personal health reasons) and I am convinced that through our nutrition and lifestyle choices we can experience the freedom, joy and vitality that optimal health brings.

I will come back another time when I have more time to browse.

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Tue, 06/19/2007 - 10:08pm.

Hi Su Kuik-Bray,

Thank you so much for taking the time to let me know you enjoy my posts. It is always really nice to feel appreciated!

Good luck in your wellness pursuits,

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Softer (not verified) on Mon, 06/25/2007 - 8:36am.

We have an interesting question to answer. Do we need to protect ourself or do we have to protect the environment. Do we have to use metal bottles which are strongly toxic for the environment or plastic bottles bad for us but biologically degradable. ~~
mail order pharmacies

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Tue, 06/26/2007 - 12:09pm.

Hi!

Almost without exception what is good for the environment is good for us. I don't think we should drink out of metal either. Best is glass. Most plastic does not biodegrade, which is very problematic for the environment. Plastics frequently wind up polluting our oceans and waterways, and are very harmful to the sea birds and other marine life that get entangled in plastic bags, fish net remnants etc. Wildlife frequently ingest small plastic pellets thinking they are fish eggs which makes them sick.

And the onslaught of plastics into our oceans continues, year after year. For an insight into that topic read The Plastic Sea to learn what our consumption habits are doing to our home, and the home of our fellow species. 

There is a new plastic on the market made of corn - the jury is still out on whether or not it is truly biodegradable, and if there are any leaching issues.

Thanks for your comment!

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Alijor on Wed, 08/29/2007 - 8:09am.

Wow, my chemical-fearing father should see that!

It's amazing how- even when you think you're ordering/obtaining a "safe" or "healthy" product, you can be in danger!

By the way, this is a great post- I like your blog!

Cheers,

Marie

Alijor.blogspot.com

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Wed, 08/29/2007 - 11:07am.

Hi Marie,

Thanks for compliment! Much appreciated :)

Yep, the "chemicalization" of our world is scary, and so is the total acceptance by general population that all these chemicals are benign, and the belief that the government or the companies that use these chemicals in their products actually care about the health of the consumer.

Chemicals are not put into our food etc. to improve our health, but rather to improve shelf life, or make it taste/smell better, and look better so that there is more chance of selling the product. Ditto for products we put use to clean, moisten, deodorize or polish our skin, hair, underarms, or teeth. Even over the counter as well as lifesaving drugs our body ultimately must detoxify. (Have you looked at the list of chemicals in cough syrup!)

Considering the health crisis exploding around us, and the huge number of chemicals that get into our bodies on a daily basis, I find it astonishing that there is so little coverage of this topic. It doesn't seem like rocket science to me to wonder whether or not the various chemicals in our bodies, even if innocuous on their own, may actually react with others in our bodies and create problems, or may simply accumulate in our bodies and create problems later.

I wrote another post on this topic if you are interested, and also check out the hundred year lie - I think it is very interesting!

Thanks again for your comment!

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Lewis Kawecki (not verified) on Sun, 09/16/2007 - 2:19pm.

Vreni,

Your article was very helpful. I especially like how you can use recycle number to determine if plastic bottles or food containers are made from safer plastics.

My family is drinking all of our water from a PUR plastic water pitcher. I checked the PUR website and they says that the NSF has said that the type of plastic they use doesn't leach chemicals. They say the plastic is from the polystyrene family. Do you have any comments on this type of plastic. I haven't noticed any plastic taste from this couter style pitcher.

Thank you for any information you can provide.

-Lewis

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Tue, 09/18/2007 - 5:07pm.

Hi Lewis,

I'm glad you found the article useful, and thanks for your question - it forced me to do more research. I learned that polystyrenes are #6 recycling symbol, and they can leach styrene into water or food, which can cause nervous system disorders, nausea, weakness, liver problems and possibly cancer. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I find that with the the #7 lexan water bottles that leach BPA there is no plastic taste at all, so you can't go by that entirely, unfortunately.

Probably the best solution is to go with a whole-house water filtration system, or a tap filter for the kitchen sink and shower if you live in an apartment, and then use glass or brass to cart water around. Or the numbers 2, 4 and 5 plastics seem okay. There is a link above to Nalgene to get safe bottles, if you want.

Here are a couple of websites about polystyrenes (and other plastics):

www.coopamerica.org

Children's health environment coalition

 

yours in health,

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Vladimir (not verified) on Tue, 09/18/2007 - 9:57pm.

"To get safe plastic baby products, try BornFree Natural Baby Products..."

According to the information on that web-site their products are made from Polyamide (PA), i.e. #7 recycling symbol.

Do you think it's safe enough?

I doubt. I can understand and accept it why products made from polyethylene or polypropylene are safe. Monomers, ethylene or propylene are gases and can be removed easily from appropriate polymer mass. Besides, they are relatively harmless, at least, their concentration in the resulted polymer mass is very low.

It doesn't apply to Polyamide (PA) or Polycarbonate, etc. because they all contain some amount of unused monomers or partially reacted oligomers (do not considering catalysts, promoters, dyes, etc) which are toxic and cause all those health problems.

The bottom line is I would avoid such undisguised advertisement of any products by people who cannot explain why particular products are dangerous while others are relatively safe.

-Vladimir

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Tue, 09/18/2007 - 11:07pm.

Hi Vladimir,

I did not realize that their bottles were recycling symbol #7. They advertise that their bottles are free of BPA and phthalates, but I didn't know that polycarbonate bottles also contained polyamide. Good grief, what a maze this all is! Thanks for letting us all know that. I guess the only conclusion to be taken is to use glass rather than plastic when it comes to food and drink!

Are you in the plastics business? What do you think of HDPE, LDPE and PP plastics?

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Tue, 09/18/2007 - 11:20pm.

Hi Vladimir,

I see that you actually answered my question in your previous post - thank you.

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Sandra (not verified) on Mon, 10/15/2007 - 11:48am.

Greetings,
A friend of mine brought up this "plastic bottle reuse" scare and I took to the internet for some "research".   Interesting that most sources I've found state that #1 bottles are fine to reuse - that the health risks are usually due to people not properly washing out the bottles, thereby encouraging growth of unwanted bacteria.  Here's one of those articles:
http://www.grist.org/advice/ask/2004/08/02/umbra-bottles/
Here's another article, from the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health.  While I agree that unfortunately toxins are all around us - and glass or ceramic are absolutely better options when storing or heating food/water - I also agree with the last line of the below article:  "It's the dose that makes the poison".
http://www.jhsph.edu/publichealthnews/articles/halden_dioxins.html
Thanks for your time!
Sandy

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Mon, 10/15/2007 - 7:48pm.

Hi Sandra,

I must admit I'm far more concerned about the problems with the Lexan water bottles (no. 7) than with the plastics that water is sold in. I've also reused those bottles on occasion. BUT if the water has been sitting in them for a long time, particularly if the bottle has been sitting in the sun, it becomes evident that the plastic is leaching, as one can definitely taste it.

And as a general rule, I agree that when it comes to toxins it is all about the dosage. The question is how well the body is able to get rid of the toxins. If they accumulate because the body's detox system is not functioning properly, or if the body simply can't get rid of them, then although initially there may not be a problem, later there might be. And although a small dosage of one toxin in isolation may be fine, we are bombarded by all kinds of toxins daily often in the food we eat, the water we drink, the stuff we put on our skin, the air we breathe - we can't get away from it. So how do all these toxins interact with each other in our bodies? We simply don't know. To me it makes sense to take a precautionary stance especially when there are safer options. I fully admit that in the eyes of many I may be going way overboard, but we each can choose what feels most comfortable for us, once we are armed with information.

Thank you so much for your comment! It is always great to hear what others are thinking, and I have no problem with others setting me straight if I've got something wrong. I want to be as accurate as possible.

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Todd (not verified) on Thu, 10/18/2007 - 11:13am.

As the manufacturer of millions of plastic bottles every year ourselves, I can assure you that we at Pure Water 2go and other plastic product manufacturers spend millions of dollars every year in testing, development, design, and certification of plastic products. It is in our best interest, as you can imagine. I find it funny that people think they can actually "taste" products leaching from plastic. Give me a break.

Everybody needs to be aware how products are designed and certified in the United States. In the US, we have 2 types of plastic: "FDA Approved Food Grade plastic" and "other plastic" -- The government has many laws regulating the type and style of plastics that are used for food consumption, most importantly, recycled material. For example, food grade plastic can only have a maximum of 10% recycled material, thus increasing the quality of the product. Food product manufacturers use products that are designed and tested for what they are used for, and they all aren't going to "leech" chemicals that kill you. These TRUTHS are the things you never hear about.

So what plastics are safe? Well, if they are used according to manufacturers safety instructions, all of them. If the manufacturer says they are not microwave safe, then don't microwave them. You wouldn't drive your car into a lake and then complain it's not waterproof, right? A water bottle is food grade plastic, so it's safe to drink out of, just don't put gasoline in it. A plastic gas can is NOT food grade plastic, so don't drink water out of it. It's common sense people.

There are far too many people on the internet writing articles with false information or faked information. If you want the real information, talk to people who do this professionally and actually file and record specific quality information with the US government as required by law. Don't listen to the information people post online without proof. The majority of the information you read about plastics leeching is not really true.

Want more information, we will be glad to help.

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Thu, 10/18/2007 - 8:52pm.

Hi Todd,

I do agree completely that it is in the plastic manufacturer's best interest to ensure the safety of the plastic, and I don't think that plastic manufacturers are intentionally making plastics that are harmful. As you say, they are following the regulations that are currently in place. I absolutely agree that one must follow the manufacturer's instructions with respect to what the plastic is suitable for, and I think that most food-grade plastic out there is safe.

I'm not convinced that the No. 7 polycarbonate plastics are safe however, even though one cannot taste any plastic at all while drinking from them. And it isn't that I think BPA or phthalates will kill anyone either - disrupting endocrine function seems to be the problem, and I think there is mounting evidence to that effect. I've listed some studies on my post, and created a link to more studies. I think that in time the US government may stop certifying No. 7 plastics as being food/water safe, or put restrictions on its use for children like the European Union has done.

We can each decide for ourselves whether or not there is enough evidence to be concerned. For me personally, I would rather apply the cautionary principle and avoid No. 7 plastics, seeing as how there are other options that seem to be safer. To me it makes sense to pay attention to the warning signs now. If I'm wrong, I'm no worse off.

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Michael Ross (not verified) on Tue, 11/06/2007 - 6:29am.

More often than not, I have to return water packaged in HDPE (#2) gallon plastic containers, as it imparts a STRONG, unpleasant plastic taste to the water.

This is certainly not why I buy DISTILLED water, which must be pure. If the water TASTES like plastic, there ARE organic compounds in it.

So this contradicts the article's assertion that #2 plastic is safe. Safer, perhaps, than #7, but not 100% safe.

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Tue, 11/06/2007 - 9:50am.

Hi Michael,

I certainly hear you. I'm wondering if that water was sitting in that plastic in the sun or some other heated place for a long time before you bought it? I would return that water as well. My belief is that the HDPE #2 plastics are safer on a scale of good, better, best, because the compounds that are in it don't stick around as long, but ultimately glass is the way to go for water storage. I can still get milk in glass bottles - I wish the water industry would do that!

You may want to look into and be wary of drinking a lot of distilled water, as the process eliminates all the minerals in it (the water is too pure!), and therefore makes you more susceptible to electrolyte imbalance and mineral deficiencies. Distilled water also becomes acidic in an open air container, which may not be healthy for you.

I think the best option for healthy water is to get a whole-house filtration system if you are in a house, or sink and shower filters if you are in a condo or apartment, choosing based on what needs to be filtered out in your area www.aquamd.com. Aquamd will recommend the filter you need based on your tap water. Then get yourself a glass, or LDPE or HDPE bottle for daily carting around.

Good luck!

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by CMB (not verified) on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 6:33pm.

So what do you recommend for those who cannot afford whole house filtration systems and purchase bottled water or use the filter on their refrigerator? What's the best advice you have for the average Joe?

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Sun, 11/11/2007 - 11:06am.

Hi CMB,

Yes, whole-house filtration systems are VERY pricey. Boiling water will kill bacteria, but will concentrate heavy metals like lead or arsenic, so it really does depend a bit on what you want to filter out. Well water may contain heavy metals so you may have to do some research. Chlorine will evaporate if you let your water sit in an open glass container for a while. (Funny how we do that for our plants but not for ourselves ...)

If you live in an urban area and you don't want to spend time boiling and letting water sit, a slightly more expensive but not crazy expensive idea is to get a filter that screws onto your tap. I think the initial cost is about $40, and then you have to replace the filter cartridges every month to 6 weeks. These carbon filters will filter out chlorine and some minerals, making the water taste better. Probably not a real solution if you are depending on well water though.

Or you can get those pitchers that have a carbon filter in them. Just fill it up with tap water and then wait a few minutes before you drink. These may be adequate for your needs if you live in an urban area. They cost about $15 to $30 depending on the brand.

You may want to google "best water filters", and see what you come up with...

Hope that helps!

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by pocahts2 on Tue, 11/13/2007 - 1:10pm.

I'm currently working with a company that bottles water in a recycable bottle that is BPA free. 

Cactrus

www.cactrus.com

 Advantages:

New bottle every purchase

Eliminates Deposits

Eliminates Returns

Cost Less than your average refill bottles

Sold at local Wal-Marts

cactrus@pms-marketing.com

Submitted by Steve Lach (not verified) on Fri, 11/23/2007 - 10:47am.

My water bottles are made in USA from LDPE #4. What makes them a little more useful is an extra indented pocket for carrying a small item, granola or energy bar,keys, phone, pager... very handy at the gym. It also gives you something to do with all those colorful wrist bands in your desk or kitchen drawers. www.gadgetbottle.com

 

I welcome questions,

info@bevytech.com

509-590-2223

Cheers,

Steve

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Fri, 12/07/2007 - 9:25pm.

As of today, Mountain Equipment Coop in Canada (comparable to REI in the States) has pulled their Nalgene #7 polycarbonate plastic bottles, I am pleased to say. Hopefully safer water bottles will now be more easily available. Health Canada is FINALLY looking into the issue, so at least it is now on the radar of those that have the power to actually protect the public.

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Sydney Rubin (not verified) on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 1:15pm.

Although I hae not been a regular reader of your blog, your post on BPA drew me in and I appreciate both what you are trying to do and the breadth and depth of the information you provide (from menopause to apendicitis).  Your post on BPA captured succinctly the broad concerns, and confusion, over BPA.

CamelBak, which created the hydration systems used by hikers, cyclists, skiiers and other athletes, has introduced a totally BPA-free bottle that hits store shelves in February.  We'll be converting nearly all our bottles to BPA-free versions in the coming months, and we are proud to be the first company to do so. 

I also wanted to point to your explanation of the numbers on the bottom of bottles, because we've discovered that there are more myths and misinformation about #7 plastics than truth.  People associate the #7  recycling symbol with polycarbonate.   But the number code inside a recycling symbol is a resin identification code.  It is not a measure of safet -- of whether a bottle uses BPA -- but only indicates what an item is made from so that recycling plants know how to recyle it.  There is no correlation with BPA, at all.   As you pointed out, codes 1-6 refer to specific materials, while #7 is an "other" or miscellaneous category.  #7 plastics are often made of multiple resins or layers of different types of resins.  Products that do not have a number and recyle symbol, are automatically categorized as #7.

It would be great to be able to look at the number on the bottom of a bottle and know if there was BPA in the plastic, but unfortunately it's not that easy.   Watch for makers of baby bottles and adult drinking bottles to promote their products when they're BPA-free, as we are doing now.  That's how you'll know.

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 10:07pm.

Hi Sydney,

Thanks for your comment. Interesting about #7 bottles. Perhaps as more manufacturers make bottles without BPA, more bottles won't have it, but my impression is that currently most #7 bottles out there do contain BPA.

And as another commenter above noted, just because a bottle does not have BPA does not mean that the plastic that it is made out of is safe. If #7 is a "miscellaneous category", that makes it really difficult for a consumer to have any confidence at all that the plastic is safe. Do we really know that polyamides are safe? The commenter above clearly does not think so, and I can't find any info to confirm their safety, which is why I took out my recommendation for BPA-free baby bottles in my original post and recommended glass instead. Glass just seems to be a safer bet than plastics.

These sorts of questions must really be a nightmare for plastics manufacturers who are trying to provide a safe product. I'm sorry about that.

Gotta say I've learned a lot about plastic water bottles since writing this post! Thanks for being a part of my education.

 

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by gdean67 on Fri, 12/14/2007 - 5:40pm.

Dr. Andrew Levy of Center for advanced medicine, New Jersey I just wanted everyone to know- stay away from this guy. After having my PCL replaced from Dr. Edward Decter (another Dr. to stay away from) Dr Levy was fast to shoot down Dr. Decter, as he said I never needed the PCL operation in the first place- and why he calls him “Quick Eddie” Dr. Levy said the cartilage in my knee was dead and needed to be replaced- and performed the operation.   

After the operation, my knee was actually worse then before the operation, Dr Levy told me a screw came lose and he needed to take it out. When I told him I was in between jobs and my insurance wouldn’t start for another month, he said that he would do the surgery for free- as long as I help him get the full amount from my insurance, for the first operation. I told him that I would see what I could do-and I appreciated him doing this operation for free. 

After removing the screw, my knee was still killing me and I was barely able to walk- but figured I would give it some time. I kept my promise and contacted my insurance company. I was told- what they pay the Dr. has nothing to do with me and I shouldn’t call again. 

After 3 months- my knee still killing me and having trouble walking, I was shocked when I received a bill from Dr. Levy for the amount of $16, 376.00. The bill was for removing the screw, plus the difference my insurance didn’t pay him for the first operation. I tried calling him for 1 month, to try and find out why I received a bill for something he said he was doing for free- He never took my call. 

After receiving a letter from his attorney a few months later- I started speaking to attorney’s to see what I could do. They all said the same thing- you signed a waiver from the first operation and you have no proof that says he was doing it for free.  I had the pleasure of finding out yesterday, that Dr. Levy’s attorney put a Levy on my on my bank account, which withdrew EVERY penny I had. My mortgage payment and many other checks I wrote bounced- leaving me scrambling to find out how I am going to pay all these bills- since my once a month commission check is now gone, along with my entire savings. 

Dr. Levy is a POS that did nothing for my knee and has now turned my life upside down- just in time for the holidays. Happy Holidays Dr. Levy!!  Stay away from him- he is a liar the worst Dr. in the tri-state area!!    

Please pass this letter to anyone who is thinking of getting orthopedic surgery- so they don’t find themselves speaking to Dr. Levy

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 12/15/2007 - 9:36am.

Hello interesting subject about #7 bottles etc, my question is waht kind of plastic are these water filters made of , and the containers they come in??

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Sat, 12/15/2007 - 4:24pm.

Good point, and one I can't believe I didn't think of! The tap filter that I use is made of a hard plastic, and I see no indication on it about the kind of plastic used. Sheesh, this is complicated!

I believe one can buy ceramic carbon filters - I read about them here.

Just in case you are interested, I wrote a post about about the pros and cons of different methods of water filtration on my other blog.

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 12/17/2007 - 12:24am.

Glass and ceramic are great but also fragile. I was wondering if there is any question about the safety of things like stainless steel. If so do you have information on it. Trying to make healthy informed choices thanks.

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Wed, 12/19/2007 - 12:34am.

Hi there,

I can't say I've researched this extensively, but from my cursory look, stainless steel seems to be a good choice, and probably what I will choose if I lose my HDPE bottle. Does anyone know if stainless steel water bottles make the water taste metallic?

I would just be sure that your stainless steel bottle doesn't have a plastic liner.

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by mostlyharmless22 on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 8:30am.

Are there any alternatives to the 5 gallon polycarbonate bottles, other than glass?  Our water tastes terrible and we've been refilling these at a reverse osmosis machine about a block away.  The cactrus.com idea of the single use recyclable 5 gallon bottles is great except you'd have to buy your water from them at an inflated price.

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 12:17pm.

Hi mostly harmless,

I did a quick google search on stainless steel 5 gallon bottles and nothing came up. Looks like an opportunity for an entrepreneur to me!!!

Can you figure out a closer to home filtration method? Sounds like a pain! Reverse osmosis takes out all the minerals, which means it may be beneficial to remineralize your water again before drinking it. I did a post on choosing a water filtration system if you are interested.

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by cheryl on Thu, 01/17/2008 - 4:14am.

Hi Vreni,

Just wanted to pass on some information that I've recently learned about corn.  Go to "Google Video" and type in the search box-"genetically modified". There are a number of different ones. The most informative that I've seen so far is "Dangers of Genetically Modified Foods" by Jeffery Smith. Although it is 6-10 min. sessions-it is well worth the effort (some are just that way. Sometimes you can put in the known title and check out the times-and wa-la, you find it all in one video. But not this one-yet). Then if you want more...put in "Monsanto" and see what they do to milk. "Fox news kills monsanto milk story" is good. Only 10 min. That piece is from another called "The Corporation" , a little lengthy, 3 hrs, but very interesting. Watch it in parts if it's too long for 1 setting. There's so much more I could share, but I'll stick close to the topic of corn- hopefully I haven't overwhelmed you. NEVER STOP LEARNING. Check the evidence before you "THINK" you know!  Cheryl

Submitted by Kat (not verified) on Mon, 01/21/2008 - 9:09pm.

Hello, I am very paranoid as hell now.

You see, I have
grown up on distilled water on Polycarbonate 2-5 hard plastic gallon
bottles with #7 recycling symbol. Even my mother has drank it since
before I was born. I know some other people who have also been raised
on them, and some of them have exhibited sexual and neurological issues.  I myself am slightly
overweight, but I blame that mostly for sedentary lifestyle.

I know that pre-natal exposure is correlated with latter effects on the
child and that worries me. I'm 19 now, and I seem to show excess of
testosterone, however I need to get it checked, such as chronic acne
and hairyness(I'm a girl) and I'm not sure if shifting periods counts.
But if I stop drinking water from these bottles, can my body recover
and my risk of BPA-related diseases decrease? How do I detoxify myself?

#34: Hi Kat
Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Mon, 01/21/2008 - 10:16pm.

Try not to worry about it. First of all, my understanding is that BPA is estrogenic - I don't believe it will increase testosterone. Secondly, as with everything when it comes to the body, whether or not you would be effected depends on your body's sensitivity to it. For many there will be no problem or nothing that the body can't handle. Thirdly, you can't change the past so there is no point stressing yourself out over it. What is, is.

Chronic acne is a pretty common problem I would think, and I wouldn't link that to the water bottles either. Irregular periods are also a common issue, and are more likely tied to stress and diet (same with acne for that matter).

I would stop drinking from the #7 bottles now, and take it from there. Our bodies are pretty resilient. Remember that we replace 2 million cells a second, so over the course of 6 months you will have completely replaced every cell in your body. (I think that's right ...) Eat good quality food, sleep enough hours in the dark, get a little exercise, and make the choice to be happy, and you will be amazed at how good you can feel.

I am really sorry if the post scared you. That was not my intention at all. I also drank from those bottles for years and years until I found out, so you are not alone. I seem to be just fine despite of it, and in all likelihood you are just fine too.

All my best,

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 01/24/2008 - 6:04pm.

We have checked all of our plastics. Most have numbers on them. However, we have quite a few sippy cups, used by our two toddlers that do not have a number on them. What does no number mean? And, are there any alternatives out there that serve the same function.

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Thu, 01/24/2008 - 7:18pm.

Hi there,

I don't know what no number means, so I would suggest that if the plastic is hard, to find an appropriate replacement, just to be on the safe side. Glass is best, but you may find sippy cups made from #2, 4 or 5 plastics. Good luck!

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by seree (not verified) on Wed, 02/13/2008 - 6:41am.

Is it safe to boil my babies bottles? I'm worried about not boiling them. What should I do?

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Wed, 02/13/2008 - 9:28am.

Hi Seree,

I must say this is a tough call. Hot water causes more leaching of chemicals from the plastic, yet boiling sterilizes them making them free of bacteria. Personally, I think that the chemicals are more dangerous than the bacteria, as some bacteria is needed to help develop the immune system of children. That's why often families that have pets have kids with fewer allergies than families that don't. Tons of germs that the child's immune system can "practice" on, so it can handle the bigger immune challenges that come along later. If your children are sick or immune -suppressed for some reason, a different decision may be better.

Is there any way you can switch to glass bottles? You can sterilize them no problem, and you would not have the chemical issue at all.

Good luck!

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Samantha (not verified) on Sat, 02/16/2008 - 12:15am.

Hi,

Thanks alot for the information, that really helps me alot. I have this questions in mind where by is it safe to drink from aluminium bottles? Such as SIGG? Does aluminium bottles causes any harm to our human body?

While searching through the net i also found out that people are actually designing solar bottles made out of plastic and using sunlight to generate heat and killing the bacteria and germs that 's in the water. I was informed that placing plastic bottles and containers under sunlight isn't healthy at all.

Would really need your guidance, Thanks! 

Submitted by incaltaminte de siguranta (not verified) on Tue, 02/19/2008 - 1:35am.

. The Natural Resources Defense Council, Sierra Club and World Wildlife
Federation have all urged their supporters to consume less bottled
water and more and more corporate accountability campaigns like "Think
Outside the Bottle" are starting to appear.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 03/02/2008 - 8:26pm.

I have had the same problem with sippy cups. I found this blog that started out comparing BPA free sippy's, then evolved into a fairly thorough review of many different companies which make food/drink containers for children. I found it quite helpful. http://zrecs.blogspot.com/2007/11/z-report-bisphenol-in-baby-bottles-and.html

Submitted by Mike Carrieri (not verified) on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 11:25pm.

I have an new product and brand for an idea to recycle water bottles at
the local level. It could also easily be used as a fund raiser for
environmental and Green causes, plus as an educational tool on carbon
footprints. My product reverses the impact of water bottles on our
environment, and requires very little material to be implemented.
Please contact me anytime, and forward this information to any contacts
who may be interested.

mdcnet1@gmail.com

#43: Study
Submitted by Frigidaire Parts (not verified) on Tue, 03/11/2008 - 6:25am.

I read that scientists have warned against allowing any
polycarbonate plastics near your food or water and stated the devastating
effects of these chemicals posed the biggest risk to babies during early
development. The study revealed a sudden increase in aneuploidy, a defect
consisting of abnormal loss or gain of chromosomes, which in humans could
possibly lead to miscarriages or disorders such as Down Syndrome.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 03/17/2008 - 12:51pm.

I don't believe this.  Are you a doctor, scientist or engineer? Can you interpret these studies appropriately? The fact that the webmaster actually gives you a forum to write such nonsense should have them holding their heads in their hands. You are a monkey that knows how to type.

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Mon, 03/17/2008 - 2:22pm.

Hi there,

No one is asking you to believe this, nor to stop using plastic water bottles. I'm just suggesting that there is research out there that may make some people want to adjust their behaviour, if they believe in the cautionary principle like I do.

There was a time no one thought smoking was dangerous either. I'd rather not wait ten years for science to give us the definitive answer that water bottles are a problem, when I can use other alternatives now. If later the science vindicates plastics, great.

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Sandy (not verified) on Sat, 03/22/2008 - 2:22pm.

I too am concerned with the leaching of plastic water bottles. I came across IceBox water, at Whole Foods today. It is water, in a type of plastic that does not leach into the water. I was impressed by this. I experimented with my cat - had the regular water I give her (filtered) and the IceBox water. She chose it several times, even when I changed the position of the water bowls. Interesting...

Submitted by dutch (not verified) on Tue, 03/25/2008 - 10:24am.

Hi,

This is a topic my wife and I always talk about.  I take a bottle, which I fill with our filtered tap water, to work everyday. I like to use a glass bottle actually, but it adds a bit too much weight to my bag....I found this one recently and like to know what you think of it?

http://ecobags.com/Our_Products/SIGG-Water-Bottles

 seems like a good product....actually I like the vibe of the entire website...

Submitted by joan (not verified) on Fri, 03/28/2008 - 3:10am.

i just want to know if the chicco baby bottle are made of polycarbonate thus containing  BPA? Thanks

Submitted by Ann v (not verified) on Tue, 04/08/2008 - 10:51am.

Thank you for really useful information. I have children and every mother takes an interest in this topic. I want to know about chicca baby botlles, too. Thank you

Submitted by Florencia on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 1:42pm.

Hi Vreni,

I am  a concern mother with 2 babies.  I was doing some reading about related issues concerning cervical, prostate,breast cancer, obesity, down syndrome and other factors. I  read articles relating these issues impacted from using Plastic bottles.The plastic bottles  and containers that contains bisphenol A. I am very concern because  I am currently using Avent for my 4 months old and 17 months old as well. I found a website while doing some research, and read Avent is the highest among the other brand , the article was stated in www.nurturepure.com and www.thinkbabybottles.com. Can you tell me if its safe for me to switch to these products offered by their website? I am also concern about the plastic containers that I'm preparing for my husband for lunch and heating in the microwave, currently using rubbermaid- before switching to this product I found on amazon, Zojirushi Mr Bento stainless steel lunch jar ,is it safe to use? and also I found some other items in www.reusablebags.com, its eco-friendly items, some are laptop lunch boxes said its (FDA approved) www.laptoplunches.com.

and also Nalgene ( known as safe plastic) and stainless steel  Siggs products...is it safe to use also? a couple of days ago , I saw an infomercial about healthy water filtration called aqua vie for life ( www.aquavieforlife.com)from Regal..is it safe to switch to ? Can you help me do some more deep research based on the information I shared with you? Thank you for all the blogs feedbacks and comments.I appreciate all your sharing thoughts and concerns about our health in society. Before I share my thoughts and possibly a better alternatives concerning everyone's health, I would also like to feel at ease that my foundings are also based on solid facts that back up my research.It's best to consult an expert that has the same interest in making other people's lives better and to live a healthy and fulfilling life. Keep up the good work and keep us all updated on today's health issues.

If you or anyone has any information on FDA approved plastic containers that BPA free and lightweight glass containers websites? I would like to switch to them As soon as I can for my family's health. Thank you.

There's also a website : www.lifewithoutplastic.com. their products is focus on stainless steel .

#51: SIGG
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 3:40pm.
Submitted by Tasia (not verified) on Sat, 04/12/2008 - 10:14am.

I'm sure they use more or less amounts of corn in plastics, because it's a relatively new thing. They use Corn-Cups at Pixar my cousin works there and we ate lunch and we had our cups and she told us about them, how they are completely biodegradable, and everything you used to eat was, the plates and utensils, it was great, I loved using a cup with a big recycling symbol on it. Leaching? I don't know about as they were one-time use, but it's perfect for that at least rather than a water bottle. Or regular plastic throw away cup.

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Sat, 04/12/2008 - 10:15am.

Hi there,

I'm afraid I just don't have the time to research all these different products. Basically I would do what you would do - go to their website and see what info I can find, and possibly call the manufacturer if I can't find the info I want.

I think the easiest thing to do is to use glass or surgical stainless steel without a liner. If you want to use plastic, do your homework until you feel good about it.

:)

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 04/15/2008 - 3:53am.

ban plastic

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Tue, 04/15/2008 - 11:01pm.

I figured it would happen eventually. Glad to see Canada taking the lead on this.

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Mark D. Sherrod (not verified) on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 6:42pm.

What about all the camping/hiking bladders such as Camelbak? There is also the issue of the bladder and then the tube that the water flows through and then the bite valve/cap.

Submitted by Phyllis (not verified) on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 6:15am.

Hi Vreni,

I have been concerned about the plastics issue for some time and have spent quite a bit of time doing my own research on the topic. I am not one who is easily swayed by those who I believe to be "alarmists", so hard evidence is required for me to buy into something like this. I must say that the results of my personal research weighs heavily against the use of plastics in conjunction with food. I have found most of the "positive" plastics talk comes from the plastics industry (if you dig deep enough you will find this to be the case), and my homework has convinced me that you are right one the money in this case. I have learned a great deal from you and many of those who have posted to this site. Your comments and questions often send me on more quests for information. Thank you!

My main focus has been water bottles, sippy cups, etc, but I wonder about plastic milk jugs. Anyone know how they size up in the plastics debate?

Thanks, Vreni. Keep up the great work! For those who aren't yet convinced, do your homework!

Submitted by Jeff (not verified) on Wed, 04/23/2008 - 7:41pm.

I have been drinking only spring water for several years, I never drink tap water because of the fluoride and chlorine present. I have noticed that I have a complete lack of sex drive, and that despite going to the gym 5 days a week for the last year and half that I cannot build muscle. I am beginning to wonder if these bottles may be the cause? I see many are switching to stainless containers, but stainless steel has it's own chemicals that may be dangerous to humans. So I think I am going to go buy a bunch of the single serving glass juice containers and reuse them for filling up with water.

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Wed, 04/23/2008 - 8:54pm.

Hi Jeff,

Plastics may be a small part of your trouble, but I expect there is more going on. Obviously eliminating plastics is a good idea, but you may want to get your hormone levels tested - cortisol, as well as the sex hormones, through a circadian saliva test, and proceed from there. I'm guessing your body may be dealing with some kind of stress, which would lower sex drive, and make it very hard to build muscle. Knowing the circadian rhythm of your hormones would let your doctor know if this were the case, and if so, your doctor would also know how to treat.

I would also suggest you find out what your metabolic type is, and then eat accordingly. Both sympathetic and slow oxidizers are catabolic types (muscle tends to break down), and gaining muscle can be very challenging. Eating according to your type would be critical for acheiving your goals, and may also go a long way to balancing your hormones as well.

You may also need to play with your workouts to see what works best for you - do you need more rest between workouts? Five days a week is a lot for a muscle gain program. Do you need to alter your rep range, sets and rest time slightly? Are you avoiding cardio? (cardio exercise would be counterproductive to your goals). You may find it helpful to hire a personal trainer that is an expert in this kind of thing.

As for stainless steel water bottles, I figure they are a better choice than plastic, and less good than glass. On the other hand, we cook with stainless steel, and it is a far better choice than teflon, so especially if you can find surgical steel water bottles I don't think you have anything to worry about.

Good luck,

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by TinaJeff (not verified) on Wed, 04/23/2008 - 9:29pm.

Okay -- we all have a variety of plastic products we use that all seem to have different numbers on them -- 1,2,3,4,5, 7 -- which ones are safer until I can find replacement products and which ones should I stop using?

Thanks for your help!

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Wed, 04/23/2008 - 10:11pm.

Hi TinaJeff,

As I said in the 2nd paragraph, plastics 2, 4 & 5 are best, 1 is okay for one time use, and 3, 6 and 7 should be avoided. Particularly 7 as it has BPA in it.

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach
Corrective Exercise Specialist
BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Sara (not verified) on Wed, 04/30/2008 - 7:53am.

I am a new mom and am concerned about the new BPA findings.  I decided to switch bottles because I figured it was better to be safe than sorry.  However, I wonder if just swithcing baby bottles is enough?  What about pacifiers?  Gerber's stage 1 foods only come in plastic containers with a number 7 on the bottom.  They don't offer the glass jars until stage 2 foods.  Also, I make my baby's bottles with bottled water.  The gallon jug does have a 2 on it, but is it REALLY safe?  Is there an alternative to giving baby's bottled water? I have also learned that the cans my powdered formula come in have BPA linings.  So what good is switching my baby's bottles when the formula, and baby food I give him are packaged in BPA products? 

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Thu, 05/01/2008 - 10:49am.

Hi Sara,

This is such a difficult issue and makes me realize how completely pervasive plastics are in our life. I wouldn't worry too much about the number 2 plastics. The pacifier nipples are a softer plastic, so I don't think they have BPA in them, but I haven't done the research.

The canned food liners are a bigger problem. I would get some big glass mason jars and dump the food into them as soon as you get them home. Or the book Nourishing Traditions has a couple of recipes for healthy baby formulas (much healthier than what you can buy), although they take a bit of effort to make.

If you can get a whole house filtration system, or at least a carbon filter for your tap water that filters out chlorine and some of the other major contaminants (too bad carbon filters don't filter out fluoride, so you may want to look into one that does if your tap water is fluoridated), you can use tap water instead of bottled water. Less polution too.

I hope that helps!

Vreni Gurd

 

Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by mangoo (not verified) on Thu, 05/01/2008 - 12:37pm.

Geee, should have read that article earlier... I wonder how much plastic do I have in me already :(

Submitted by Michael Arms (not verified) on Sat, 05/03/2008 - 7:16am.

Thank you for this article. I have recently started a blog for our website that focuses on recycling and environmental issues - the PaceButler Recycling Blog, and I came across your article while doing research on plastic recycling. I think you've provided me with a good reference material and I will definitely track back to this article when I publish the post on plastic recycling. The comments that I read here also provide excellent information and useful links that I'm going to explore further. I'm also subscribing to your feed, I don't want to be missing your future articles. Keep up the great job.

#66: Kat
Submitted by Ceitagh (not verified) on Mon, 05/05/2008 - 11:49am.

Kat,

 

What you're describing sounds like PCOS. The symptoms include weight problems, acne, irregular and sometimes painful periods, facial hair, etc. There are some theories that estrogenic exposure in adolescence may be linked to PCOS, more evidence that diet can be the trigger. In any case, an improved diet is a key part of treatment. If your periods become very irregular (2 or 3 months apart) and involve prolonged and painful bleeding, you may want to seek medical treatment. Ask for a referral to an endocrinologist, as regular Gyns are often poorly educated on PCOS. For more info you can go to www.soulcysters.com.

Best of luck!

Kate

 

 

Submitted by Dave (not verified) on Thu, 05/08/2008 - 6:03am.

Thanks for the great article. There’s a lot of helpful information in
there. I just wanted to let you and
others know about a new product I came across.
They are called Bevibags. They
are completely BPA free. They are
disposable drink bags, that you fill yourself.
It enables you to fill the bag with whatever you want, instead of having
to buy prefilled juice boxes. I can now
mix water with whatever juice I want to give my kids and not have to worry
about them getting all that sugar from store bought juice boxes. The best part is that they are
disposable. No washing, no
cleaning. Just use it and throw them
away. I found them at www.bevibags.com

Submitted by creary (not verified) on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 1:24pm.

We are also looking for a 5 gallon water bottles.  We live in an area with high Fluoride  in our water and we have young children so we are looking for an alternative.  We found a 5 gallon plastic bottle with #1 on the bottom.  Everything else that we have found so far has a #7.  What do you think.

Thank you for your time.  We loved the article. 

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 1:53pm.

Hi Creary

Interesting that you found 5 gallon plastic bottles made from #1 plastics. What brand are they? Are they a soft plastic like the bottles that water is sold in in the stores? I would imagine that would be better than #7, but I have not extensively researched the number #1s. Glad to see you are trying to avoid the fluoride.

 

Vreni Gurd

 

Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Billy (not verified) on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 4:44pm.

Good thing so many BPA-free bottle sites are popping up...and not only for babies. www.bornfree.com has a whole bpa-free baby feeding system www.titanwaterbottle.com sells a bpa-free reusable water bottle that has a carabiner stuck on it www.nalgene.com is coming out with some bpa-free bottles I hear! Also, I found a lot of great information on Bisphenol-A and baby bottles on www.hubpages.com.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 05/11/2008 - 8:24am.

chicco is an italian company and the european standards are higher. I believe they have banned bpa in baby products. europe is way ahead of the us in this type of thing!

Submitted by Fredrica Rahadnak (not verified) on Wed, 05/14/2008 - 12:17pm.

I was wondering if anyone else in Afghanistan drinking bottled water from Oasis Pure Water Factory LLC experience a smell and taste of plastic in there water?  This is all we drink here in Afghanistan.  Is this bottle water leaking Bisphenol A?  Several people here have been sick with cramps, stomach pains and diarrhea.  I have bottle number bar code# 6291021212815

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 05/16/2008 - 11:04am.

Hi Vreni,

I'm working hard to switch our family to better plastics and more eco-friendly alternatives. However, I'm a little worried that the damage might already be done, especially as I read entry #12 on your blog. The writer states, "It's the dose that makes the poison".

I know of numerous friends and family members who have used toxic #7 plastic water bottles for years. Please explain more about the correlation between dosage levels and irreversable health dangers from using long term toxic plastics.

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Fri, 05/16/2008 - 9:43pm.

I think that there is no point worrying about it though, as there is nothing one can do to change the past. I also believe the body is pretty resilient. If you or members of your family are worried, you can always get some functional medicine testing (saliva circadian hormone testing from a company such as Biohealth, for example) and then your doctor can help you encourage proper hormone rhythms with supplements, lifestyle etc.

If you are concerned about the estrogenic effects, also avoid soy like the plague from now on. But, like I said, no sense stressing over the past, as the stress is probably worse for you than the effects of the plastic you used to use.

Hope that helps a bit,

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 8:11am.

Hi, I have bought some Primo water bottles that says they are made from corn not crude oil but it has a 7 on the bottom - should i still be concerned?

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 3:25pm.

Not all #7 plastics contain BPA, but unless it specifically says it does not, one can't be sure. The corn plastics are relatively new, and probably fine, but the jury is still out as there has not been enough time to do very much research on them.

In general, if possible, I would move away from plastics altogether - to glass or stainless steel.

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 06/01/2008 - 8:05am.

I have a nalgene bottle that is a #1.  Your blog post states that #1's should not be reused--why would they have made a #1 reusable bottle and is it safe for me to continue using it?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 06/01/2008 - 8:05am.

I have a nalgene bottle that is a #1.  Your blog post states that #1's should not be reused--why would they have made a #1 reusable bottle and is it safe for me to continue using it?

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Sun, 06/01/2008 - 4:16pm.

The reason #1 are not for re-use is because of bacteria issues, not because the plastic leaches. If the bottle is made for re-use, and you wash it carefully, I imagine it is probably okay.

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Irwin (not verified) on Thu, 06/12/2008 - 12:13pm.

@ Samantha [I have this questions in mind where by is it safe to drink from aluminium bottles?]

Many sources link aluminium to Alzheimer and brain damage. Try googling aluminium + alzheimer.

Submitted by Irwin (not verified) on Thu, 06/12/2008 - 12:15pm.

@ Samantha [I have this questions in mind where by is it safe to drink from aluminium bottles?]

Many sources link aluminium to Alzheimer and brain damage. Try googling aluminium + alzheimer.

Submitted by Lance KC (not verified) on Wed, 06/25/2008 - 2:22pm.

For the record, I work in marketing and one of my accounts is "glass". We just don't have the money that "Got Milk" has to make a big advertising push. That said, if you are concerned, as many of us are, about Besphenol A, glass could be the answer. It is 100% natural (fire and sand). It is 100% recyclable and sustainable. It doesn't effect the taste of the products it contains. It's good for humans. And it's good for the environment. If someone could just make a safe, portable water bottle, we'd be in business. On a side note: many companies like Gerber have switched back over to glass for some of their product lines. 

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 07/02/2008 - 11:18am.

Kat,

 You may have Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome, (PCOS).  The symptoms you described are common symptoms from suffers of PCOS.  PCOS is thought to be genetic, although environment and diet do play a role.

There is a lot information on the web that can help you. You also need to see your doctor and discuss your treatment options. 

Submitted by Dr. George Bittner (not verified) on Wed, 07/02/2008 - 7:03pm.

Sorry, Ms Vreni, but all the bottle types you list as alternatives to PC (BPA leaching) water bottles also leach chemicals that have estrogenic activity (EA) --- often in amounts greater than the EA of BPA . That is, consumers have well-justified concerns about the EA exhibited by BPA and phthalates because many scientific articles have reported that chemicals with EA produce many adverse health effects. While estrogens (the female sex hormones) occur naturally in the body, many scientific studies have shown that significant health problems can occur when chemicals are ingested that mimic or block the actions of these female sex hormones; the fetus, newborn, or young child is especially vulnerable. These health-related problems (some of which you mentioned in your article) include early puberty in females, reduced sperm counts in males, altered functions of reproductive organs, obesity, altered behaviors, and increased rates of some breast, ovarian, testicular, and prostate cancers.

However, avoiding BPA does not mean that you safe from ingesting chemicals in plastics that have EA. BPA and phthalates are just two of several thousand chemicals that exhibit EA. These chemicals leach from almost all plastics sold today, including some of the “safe” plastics you mentioned – polyethylene (HDPE or LDPE), polypropylene and PET. That is, plastics advertised as BPA-free or phthalate-free are not EA-free; almost all these plastics still leach chemicals having EA – and often have more total EA than plastics that release BPA or phthalates. In fact, our data show that all the plastics listed in this article release chemicals having EA.

Various plastics manufacturers are attempting to solve this problem by removing chemicals having EA (BPA, phthalates) one at a time. This approach is not an appropriate solution because hundreds of chemicals used in plastics exhibit EA, not just BPA and phthalates. This is a marketing-driven solution, not a health-driven solution. The appropriate health-driven solution is to manufacture safer plastics that are EA-free. This is not a pie-in-the-sky solution, as the technology already exists to produce EA-free plastics that also have the same advantageous physical properties. In fact, some of these advanced-technology EA-free plastics are already in the marketplace and many more EA-Free plastic items could be commercially available quickly -- if consumers were to demand them.

George D. Bittner, PhD
Professor of Biology,
The University of Texas at Austin
Founder: CertiChem, PlastiPure

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Wed, 07/02/2008 - 8:54pm.

Hi Dr. Bittner,

Thank you so much for this. I'm amazed at how quickly the BPA plastics are disappearing from store shelves at least in my home city. Perhaps the buying public can keep putting the pressure on the manufactures to eliminate estrogen disruptors in all plastics. Although maybe, considering how plastics are adding to the burden on the planet, we should simply use glass.

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Voila (not verified) on Sat, 07/05/2008 - 7:37pm.

I'm not sure if this is true, but would boiling the bottles leach out all or most of the chemicals?

So then, if you continue to use the bottle, most of the harmful chemicals will be gone already!

 Thanks.

Submitted by Jay (not verified) on Tue, 07/08/2008 - 5:14pm.

Great post - I'm glad there are people like you out there putting helpful information on the internet for all of us to read and research on!

I ran across another bpa free water bottle called the titan water bottle. It's got a built in clip, 'spill proof' (so they say) mouthpiece, and you can use it all with just one hand.

I'm thinking of ordering one. It's made out of tritan material just like nalgene and camelbak's new bpa free bottles. Does anyone have this bottle or know someone that has one?

www.titanwaterbottle.com is their site.

Thanks,

Jay

Submitted by blt on Tue, 07/08/2008 - 5:19pm.

Great post - I'm glad there are people like you out there putting
helpful information on the internet for all of us to read and research
on!

I ran across another bpa free water bottle called the
titan water bottle. It's got a built in clip, 'spill proof' (so they
say) mouthpiece, and you can use it all with just one hand.

I'm
thinking of ordering one. It's made out of tritan material just like
nalgene and camelbak's new bpa free bottles. Does anyone have this
bottle or know someone that has one?

www.titanwaterbottle.com is their site.

Thanks,

Billy

Submitted by samuel on Fri, 07/25/2008 - 6:07am.

Great site by the way. I
just wanted to know if you had any information on SAN
& NAS used in water containers and for food storage for
babies. Having searched on the internet there seems to be
limited information on whether this is safe or not. Z
recs has a brief statement saying that they are safe (wrt
Brita) but just wanted to get a second opinion. However,
'Smart Plastics Guide' lists Styrene's as unsafe so I'm a
bit confused.

Also was looking at some food containers the other day and some said ABS. Is this safe?

I would really appreciate any light you
could shed on the subject. Thanks. Samuel

Submitted by Diane (not verified) on Fri, 08/01/2008 - 12:05pm.

I just got a refrigerator with a water filtration system, but, after months of use, the water still tastes like plastic what is wrong??  (I got a new filter)   I'd rather drink bottled water.

Meanwhile, Arrow Plastics, responding to my question about re-usable bottles I just purchased,  said: 

 The item in question is made from PETg and has a recycling symbol of #1.  All of the resins we use in the production of our beverage containers have been FDA approved for food contact.  They contain no Bisphenol A or BPA.

Now what??

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 08/06/2008 - 9:56am.

A great place to find lots of really cool looking and totally safe stainless steel bottles is http://www.shopkirdevries.com/ststwabo.html

 

K

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 08/13/2008 - 9:47am.

Hello,

 

I have found out that Sigg water bottles use Santoprene and Polypropylene for the top of their water bottles.

I have found information about Polypropylene saying that it is safe, but what about Santoprene?

 

Any one have any information?

Heidi heidi@outdoorbaby.net

http://www.outdoorbaby.net

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 8:47am.

Hello, I am the nursing mother of an infant. I use the Braun Aqua Express Electric Water Kettle & am wondering if it will leach BPA into our water. Thanks very much.

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 11:29pm.

I suggest you look for the recycling number on the kettle.  If it is a 2, 4 or 5, it is fine.  If it is a 3, 6, or a 7 it is not.  If you see no recycling number, try phoning the company and ask.

Hope that helps.

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

#95: games
Submitted by العاب بنات جديدة (not verified) on Sat, 09/06/2008 - 4:08am.
Submitted by temizlik sirketi (not verified) on Thu, 09/11/2008 - 5:42am.

good article.

Submitted by Bruce (not verified) on Thu, 09/18/2008 - 10:05am.

I travel with a type 1 vodka flask which I refill from the water coolers in the exercise rooms at the hotels. Is there any merit to having an "old" bottle?  Does the leaching degrade over time to become less a concern?

thanks

bruce

Submitted by Walter (not verified) on Wed, 09/24/2008 - 10:25pm.

There are out there selling feeding bottles in PP material and it do not conytain BPA. It looks a bit cloudy and not so crystal clear transparent like Polycarbonate but it sure would be safer.

Submitted by Michele (not verified) on Sun, 09/28/2008 - 3:02pm.

loooooonnnnng list of comments to read through...but worth the time,  I sure am learning a lot!!!   Recently my husband and I bought a Water Ionizer for the benefits that it provides----and I told him that it was going to be hard to find the convenience of a lightweight container to carry water to work and play that has the benefits of good old fashioned GLASS.  I am glad to find that I am not the only person out here that is searching for the best to use.  I have heard and read that aluminum has been linked to alzheimers---NOT using that.  Heard & read that plastic leaches dangerous things into water....ESPECIALLY water that has been treated and made "purer"  .....so the LAST thing we want to do is invest a ton of money into a GREAT product that makes this wonderful rejuvenating water only to turn around and taint the stuff all by ourselves using a nasty plastic container.  I was told by some friends (they own an Ionizer) that they were told that the #7 on the bottom of the containers THEY use meant it was "pharmaceutical grade" plastic....LOVELY!!!! HA!  Now after reading these postings I can see that that is possibly not correct because that the number is actually used by recyclers to discern HOW that particular plastic is to be recycled???  (SSSOOOOOOOOOO glad we didnt buy alllllll those gallon jugs now!!!)

LOL  I am going to keep reading this post and researching....thanks for all the info everyone and for listing allll those websites that I will go read to get even more shoved into this wee brain of mine!!!  lol---still---appreciate it much! 

Submitted by WitsEnd on Sun, 09/28/2008 - 3:11pm.

loooooonnnnng list of comments to read through...but worth the time,  I sure am learning a lot!!!   Recently my husband and I bought a Water Ionizer for the benefits that it provides----and I told him that it was going to be hard to find the convenience of a lightweight container to carry water to work and play that has the benefits of good old fashioned GLASS.  I am glad to find that I am not the only person out here that is searching for the best to use.  I have heard and read that aluminum has been linked to alzheimers---NOT using that.  Heard & read that plastic leaches dangerous things into water....ESPECIALLY water that has been treated and made "purer"  (take for instance water that has run through a purifier and then ran to a ice maker using a copper tubing?--"purer" water picks up properties of the copper tubing??).....so the LAST thing we want to do is invest a ton of money into a GREAT product that makes this wonderful rejuvenating water only to turn around and taint the stuff all by ourselves using a nasty plastic container.  I was told by some friends (they own an Ionizer) that they were told that the #7 on the bottom of the containers THEY use meant it was "pharmaceutical grade" plastic....LOVELY!!!! HA!  Now after reading these postings I can see that that is possibly not correct because that the number is actually used by recyclers to discern HOW that particular plastic is to be recycled???  (SSSOOOOOOOOOO glad we didnt buy alllllll those gallon jugs now!!!)

LOL  I am going to keep reading this post and researching....thanks for all the info everyone and for listing allll those websites that I will go read to get even more shoved into this wee brain of mine!!!  lol---still---appreciate it much! 

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 2:49am.

pediasure bottles has the #7 under it and my baby might be at risk and i don't know what to do because it is the only milk she drinks

Submitted by OfCourse13 (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 12:18pm.

Yes.  They're called Better Bottles and can be found at ezclearwater.com.  They come in both 3 and 5 gallon size, are recycle #1 PET.  No BPA!

Submitted by LoAnome (not verified) on Fri, 10/10/2008 - 11:20pm.

Hi Vreni,

Thank you for your tips. I do have a question about SIGG water bottles. I bought these as a safer alternative to plastic water bottles. I did notice though that there is a plastic-y film on the inside of the bottles. What is it, really, and is it safe? My son thinks there is a strange, metallic taste to the water in the bottles. Is there a way to remove this taste? I can't send glass bottles with him to school, otherwise I would love to! I myself drink from glass water bottles (reuse voss water bottles) and love it.

Thanks in advance for your help!

 LoAnome

Submitted by Mr Kellogg (not verified) on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 1:06am.

I just received 2 water bottles, and they are a nice bottle with a soft neoprene jacket, strap, and seal-able top. The number in a triangle on the bottom is a #7. I have cleaned these bottles out and would like to use them.

Whats Up? Are they safe?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 6:23pm.

Wow, this article was great. I was really concerned about what to use for my children. I found some good BPA-free bottles by Laken. I ordered them from <a href='www.metalwaterbottlestore.com'>www.metalwaterbottlestore.com</a>. We love them! I feel alot safer now for myself and my family. Thank you once again!

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 7:39pm.

Hi LoAnome,

I would contact the company and ask what the liners are made of.   Liners of canned food usually contain BPA, but hopefully since metal bottles are trying to address the plastic issue one would hope that they wouldn't use liners containing BPA.  But I don't think you can simply trust companies, so do ask them.

Not sure what to say about the metalic taste either.  Hopefully over time it will dissipate.

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by BPA Free Baby Bottle (not verified) on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 11:01am.

Concerned about your newly born baby or your toddler drinking out of unsafe plastic bottles? Wondering what is diluted in your water or milk? If you want your children safe and unharmed by dangerous chemicals that could be in every bottle you own visit Mother's Milkmate. They provide safe and reliable products for new mothers and existing mothers. These products include breast pumps, storage and instructions on how to store breast milk, BPA free bottles and much more. Mother's Milkmate should be your choice for BPA free plastic products!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 10/22/2008 - 11:16am.

 I contacted the Pur company and found out that the housing of the faucet systems are made of polycarbonate  and coded to #7.   My understanding is that  combination of the two is a bad sign.   I know that the water is held in this housing for period of time between use.  Is this something we should be concerned about.  I know that I quit using it until I can find out more.  Do you have any additional information?

Submitted by papaouiee (not verified) on Tue, 10/28/2008 - 6:00pm.

Hi:

 

I just came across this web site. I have 8 5 gallon water bottles with the #7 under them and am concerned. I have been using them to get water for cooking and drinking for the last almost 10 years and was told that any number 5 and above was safe; now you say it is not. My big concern is that you claim it can bring on Diabetes type II and I was diagnosed wih diabetes type two about 5-7 years ago and I am concerned for my 15 year old son who as been drinking this water for the last 10 years. Your article 18 months old and you mentioned a class action suit on this. Has it been resolved? I am disabled and have been illegally denied medical care for almost a year with my sugar running over 400 and causing damage to my body. If I have some recourse, I want to use it; it may keep me alive with the cost of medical care and the government abandoning the people they took responsibility for; leaving us in the dust.

Thanks:

Bernie

PS Please also respond to me at my e-mail address so I can get your response when you send it.

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Tue, 10/28/2008 - 8:15pm.

Hi Papaouiee,

The water bottles you have are quite large, so any BPA that is released into the water would be very diluted.  I really doubt that it is a primary cause of your diabetes.  Also the problem is far more serious for infants than for adults, which is why the class action suit concerns baby bottles. I'm sorry if I frightened you - that was not my intent. 

There is SO MUCH you can do to control your blood sugar, and the water bottle issue would be one of the very last things I would address.  If you are serious about changing your health status, go to my contact page and send me a private message, and I will help you.  (Or contact me through my www.wellnesstips.ca site).

Sorry I couldn't email you personally - I don't have your email address.

Vreni Gurd

 Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 10/29/2008 - 1:43pm.

I have 2 hard plastic cups that were purchased at IKEA many years ago. There is a recycle symbol (Mobius style) that has the number 07 inside and the letters SAN underneath the symbol. Is this the same as number 7 plastic discussed in your article? I wasn't sure because IKEA is a Scandinavian company and the cup was manufactured in Taiwan. So the labeling standards back when I bought them could mean something different than it does today.  Thanks.

Submitted by Stacy (not verified) on Thu, 10/30/2008 - 9:51pm.

I know this may sound odd, but I was wondering how safe the water that sits in the plastic pipes in your home is? I know this is extrapolating a bit, but I'm just curious...

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Fri, 10/31/2008 - 7:35am.

I haven't researched the types of plastics pipes are made of - all I can say after reading all of these comments is WOW, plastics have taken over our lives!  Plastics are in touch with our water in all kinds of places - pipes, water filters, etc., which can make it harder to remove the plastics that touch our food from our lives ...  All we can do is our best, and for the majority of us that will be enough, I think.

Vreni Gurd

 Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by AC (not verified) on Thu, 11/13/2008 - 3:31am.

A great place to find bpa, pvc and phthalate free baby items, water bottles, and various other things is thesoftlanding.com. I recently had a baby and i am very concerned about plastics. While the nipple part of most pacifiers is BPA free, the plastic part it is attached to is not. The same goes for teethers. I came across the soft landing web-site after researching for days on bpa free baby toys. They have done alot of the research for you and site their sources.   

They also have great info on other toxins in toys, not just bpa. They are a bit pricey on some of the items, but that may be because alot of the baby items i bought are usually sold in france (one package wasn't even in English) and other european countries.

 And i agree with one of the above posters that said to avoid all plastics when possible, especially in cooking and food.  

Submitted by Michelle (not verified) on Thu, 11/20/2008 - 7:29pm.

We currently rent our home and don't want to put in a filtration system.  Does anyone know anything bad (dangers, toxins, etc) about 5 gallon GLASS water containers?  We have found a company that I think sells them and will deliver them to our door.  Should I go with Distilled or Purified?  And, what about the glass???

 

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Thu, 11/20/2008 - 10:50pm.

Hi Michelle,

Glass is the best material for water.  I would stay away from distilled, as all the minerals are removed, and water is supposed to come with minerals.  Not to sure what "purified" means exactly, but my bet is it is better than distilled.

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 9:27am.

My father died of ALS (you may know it as Lou Gehrig's Disease), since then I have done a lot of research. There are truly some scary things that we consume every day. Skin is the biggest organ of our body and every morning or night (or both) we get in the shower or bath tub and let chlorine and who knows what else seep into our biggest organ. I've just ordered and shower head filtration, eventually I'd like to get the whole house filtration system as well as doubling up with faucet filters, shower filters, etc... Poster on #44 you are crazy dude. You should listen to Vreni, good comparison made on the cigarettes. 10 years from now everyone will look back on these days of getting bottled plastic water and think, were we crazy.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 12/18/2008 - 10:15am.

I just got a Philips Avent Microwave Steam Sterilizer for Christmas (the Express II) and I was concerned about the type of plastic it was made from. So I looked and found that the bottom is made out of polypropylene, however I couldn't find a recyling number on the top, the bottle/accessory holder, or the bottles that came with it. So I looked online for hours, couldn't find anything, and finally gave up and called. I said that I was calling about the type of plastic the microwave steam sterilizer was made of. First the lady on the phone just told me all the Steam sterilizers are BPA free, then she started to tell me to have a nice day. (she hadn't even answered my question, so I politely stoped her) I explained how the bottom was labeled as PP and that nothing else was labeled and I asked her what they were made out of.  She said something about how it didn't say and then this is what she said,  "All I know is it doesn't contain BPA so it must be polypropylene". She didn't know. The way she put it, I don't think she knows anything about plastic, or that there are other types other than Polycarbonate and Polypropylene. 

So how can I find out what the other parts are made out of? I'm not satisisfied with my "must be" answer from Philips Avent. I've read that most Avent bottles are made out of Polycarbonate so I'm pretty sure I won't be using those.

Thanks!

-M.G.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 01/07/2009 - 2:11pm.

your all gay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Submitted by Glenn (not verified) on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 9:34am.

Hi Vreni...

Very interesting blog, thank you for this.

I have another plastics question, that may create some interest & that is as it realtes to the copious amount of plastic found in the interior of cars & trucks.

I have been told that the film that we all get on the inside of our windows comes from chemicals that are leaching into the air from all the plastic parts found in the vehicle.

Take a look next time you are in one, it really is astonishing how much plastic is in an average car.

Seems to me that if this is in fact real,  we are breathing in some nasty stuff & this issue could be as big a deal drinking/eating from plastic containers.

Please comment.

Best Regards,

Glenn

#121: freezing
Submitted by jaqs (not verified) on Mon, 01/19/2009 - 8:17pm.

Dear Vreni

thank you for your so interesting research on plastic bottles.

Do you have any research on 'freezing', and if there are chemicals released fr0m plastic when it is frozen,

thank you for your time

Jaq

#122: #7 bottle
Submitted by Teresa (not verified) on Tue, 01/27/2009 - 3:19am.

I had been using the #7 bottle for at least 7 to 8 years. I had no idea until today after going through your website and went to check my bottle. OMG, my  whole family is in danger. What should your advise to me now, and how can I detox myself from it now. Is it too late? How come they hardly list the number on the news when they first discover this??? I fill up these bottles every week because they were so durable and is easy for me to carry on each hand.... OMG

Now what???

So why do they use #7 bottle for grapefruit drink or any drinks at all. Still?!xx

#123: detox
Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Tue, 01/27/2009 - 10:02am.

Hi Teresa,

Try not to worry.  Many of us have used those bottles for years too, but there is no sense worrying about the past.   Just stop using those bottles now - there are lots of stainless steel bottles on the market now, or use good ol' glass.  

Our bodies are pretty amazing at detoxification if we treat them right by eating real food, drinking clean water - just trust that you will be okay, and you will probably be okay.  Worrying about stuff you can't change may create more stress and health problems than  just accepting where you are now and moving on.

I'm really sorry if this post scared you.  I wrote it so people could be proactive, and did not mean to create a big scare.

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by OfCourse13 on Sat, 01/31/2009 - 12:21pm.

Thought I'd let  you know - there are great BPA Free 3 or 5 gallon Water Cooler Bottles on the market and they're even Made in the USA.  They're called Better-Bottles.  You can find them at ezClearWater.com which also has water cooler filters called PureCool that remove the BPA if you are still using polycarbonate bottles.  Cool site with lots of eco-friendly "Clean Water" products!

#125: good post
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 02/26/2009 - 5:43am.

Awesome post! I love stuff like this

Submitted by Ashif Adnan (not verified) on Wed, 03/11/2009 - 11:46am.

Hi,

Please first of all accept my appreciation for conveying such important health issue about avoiding BPA contained plastics. I read some articles regarding BPA. They said like industries have been using this compound as a sysnthesization of some other particles, as an antioxidant, as an polymerization etc. Now the following questions came in my mind just for curiosity regarding plastics themselves:

1) Is it really possible to produce plastics without this BPA stuff completely? 

2) If plastics are now produced without BPA, would they be same in quality as those with BPA?

Please pardon me if the questions are not rational. Thanks in advance.

Take care :-)

Adnan

Windsor, ON 

Submitted by Joseph Summers (not verified) on Wed, 03/11/2009 - 2:27pm.

Unfortunately, the author left out the reason as to why we should not be
using other types of plastic that are  not of type #7. Type #7 plastics are
known to affect your health, but type #1, the most common, does not . The author was right about the #7 plastics and should have stuck with that type of plastic because nearly the entire article was based upon them. Those of us who reuse water bottles, or any
type of #1 (PET) bottles I should say, are safe. Keep reusing your Evian water or
Mountain Dew bottle. According to the sources listed below (no the websites listed are not labeled as "trusted sources", but the sources they cite are, so read them)  you
could inhale or ingest #1 plastics  and they will have no effect.
I think the article's introduction was misleading and has shown once
again that what you read on the Internet is not always true (or written logically). Do not use plastics with the #7 Resin ID Code!!!

 Have a great day!

http://www.plasticsinfo.org/s_plasticsinfo/sec_generic.asp?CID=657&DID=2...

 

http://environment.about.com/od/healthenvironment/a/plastic_bottles.htm

 

http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/petbottles.asp (see their sources)

 

http://www.plasticsmythbuster.org/s_mythbuster/sec.asp?CID=1986&DID=8372  (see their sources)

 

http://www.plasticsinfo.org/s_plasticsinfo/sec_level3_collapsed.asp?CID=...

Submitted by Joseph Summers (not verified) on Wed, 03/11/2009 - 2:27pm.

Unfortunately, the author left out the reason as to why we should not be
using other types of plastic that are  not of type #7. Type #7 plastics are
known to affect your health, but type #1, the most common, does not . The author was right about the #7 plastics and should have stuck with that type of plastic because nearly the entire article was based upon them. Those of us who reuse water bottles, or any
type of #1 (PET) bottles I should say, are safe. Keep reusing your Evian water or
Mountain Dew bottle. According to the sources listed below (no the websites listed are not labeled as "trusted sources", but the sources they cite are, so read them)  you
could inhale or ingest #1 plastics  and they will have no effect.
I think the article's introduction was misleading and has shown once
again that what you read on the Internet is not always true (or written logically). Do not use plastics with the #7 Resin ID Code!!!

 Have a great day!

http://www.plasticsinfo.org/s_plasticsinfo/sec_generic.asp?CID=657&DID=2...

 

http://environment.about.com/od/healthenvironment/a/plastic_bottles.htm

 

http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/petbottles.asp (see their sources)

 

http://www.plasticsmythbuster.org/s_mythbuster/sec.asp?CID=1986&DID=8372  (see their sources)

 

http://www.plasticsinfo.org/s_plasticsinfo/sec_level3_collapsed.asp?CID=...

Submitted by Helion (not verified) on Thu, 03/12/2009 - 5:22pm.

Can we add a few facts to this discussion please.

the #7 as pointed out by a poster above does NOT mean BPA. It is the "catch all" recyling number for other unlisted resins used in plastic manufacturing. One, yes, just one of these is BPA based. Many BPA replacment resins are also listed as #7 in the chasing arrows logo.

"In 2006 europe banned..BPA"

Sorry that is just wrong, here is the real story:

http://www.efsa.europa.eu/EFSA/efsa_locale-1178620753812_1178620835386.htm

Yes Polycarbonate does leach BPA, but at a rate so low the average person would have to drink 225 litres of water (or 225kg (500lbs) of food)that have been stored in a polycarbonate bottle PER DAY every day of there life, to match the results from the orginal research.

This is due to the  fact that people metabolise and excrete BPA from their system far more quickly than rodents, further limiting the relevance of low-dose effects of BPA reported in some rodent studies.

This outcome has being supported by studies from the US FDA, the US EPA, the American chemistry council, the American council on science and health, the Europen commission scientic committee on food, the Europen food safety authority, the United Kingdom Food standards Agency, the Japan ministry of health, Labour and Welfare, as well as, Food Standards Australia and New Zealand.

Submitted by Eri (not verified) on Sat, 03/14/2009 - 5:55am.

Good afternoon. Be a good listener. Your ears will never get you in trouble.
I am from Uzbekistan and learning to read in English, give true I wrote the following sentence: "Agreement with airline technology partner."

With love :-), Eri.

Submitted by Ryan (not verified) on Tue, 03/17/2009 - 7:48pm.

Bottom line, plastic is dangerous for us and the environment.  In my opinion, and with some of the research I have done, so are some of the metals that we drink out of.  While I understand some of the concern with drinking out of glass, namely their fragile nature, I can attest that this should not be as much of a concern as many people think.  I ride my bike all over, to the beach, to the store, and beyond and I bring my glass water bottles everywhere and have had no trouble.  Furthermore, while we do not sell them yet , you can put these glass bottles in any number of carrying cases.  We are proud of our glass bottles, and honestly there is nothing like drinking clean water out of a clear thick glass bottle.   If you like what I say, check out our bottles at www.livinglavidaverde.net.  However, whatever you do, stop drinking out of non-reusable plastic bottles. 

Submitted by Troy Hunter (not verified) on Wed, 03/25/2009 - 10:43pm.

Thanks for your input Todd, but the truth is that the government and corporations often tell the public something is safe when indeed it is not.  I am a clean water freak, and i don't like drinking anything but hi-grade water from a "reputable" company, such as mountain spring water by Arrowhead, or my own mountain spring water.  However, I am concerned that the Arrowhead water I recently purchased at Safeway definitely has a plastic taste, and as M.D. says, "if you can taste the plastic, you are drinking it".  Now, let me be specific here, the bad taste I only recently experienced was from Arrowhead's "Distilled Mountain Spring Water", which I have been using recently for kidney cleansing.  It is well known that distilled water is actually non-beneficial for regular consumption.  But the fact that distilled water leaches unwanted chemicals from our bodies, it is also very apparent that it leaches plastic from Arrowhead's plastic containers, because it really tastes nasty.  Now I don't know where to actually purchase distilled water in anything BUT plastic, so I am forced to stop drinking distilled water until I can find a safe vessel.  Anyway, thought you and others might want to know this.  Check it out, you'll see!  Regards, Troy Hunter, Arizona

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 04/09/2009 - 9:53am.

For those ignoramuses above who feel that it is only the amount of toxin that is to be of concern, and NOT the toxin itself, I say: feed it to your own children!You're just out to make a buck at the expense of others.  You know what they call a person who sells himself for money? Exactly that. 

Submitted by Max (not verified) on Sun, 04/12/2009 - 12:44pm.

Plastic (PET) water bottles are safe and they provide access to clean water where it might not be available.  The problem with plastic water bottles is that nearly 150 billion bottles are produced each year, and that's not counting soft drinks, etc.  That's a lot of plastic bottles.  Only 20-30 percent are being recycled the rest end up in our landfills, streams and oceans.  We at Enso Bottles saw this growing problem and decided something needed to be done and quick. 

The reality is that plastic isn’t going away any time soon.  We felt that we need to do something that could have an immediate impact.

 

We developed a biodegradable plastic bottle that is healthy and will biodegrade in a landfill environment.  Most plastics like corn base (PLA) or standard PET plastic won't biodegrade in a landfill....they will languish in a landfill for hundreds or thousands of years. 

 

Enso bottles will biodegrade in a landfill within1-5 years, depending on the environment. 

We know it isn't the final answer for our pollution problems but it is a step in the right direction. Maxhttp://www.ensobottles.com

Submitted by Maylisa on Fri, 04/24/2009 - 4:11pm.

Hello,

 I am so glad to read this article, it answered a lot of my questions.  I was particularly interested to know that the #1 can be used but only once.  I believe that most water bottles are #1.  I host a website that is designated to Kids water bottles that are BPA-Free.  I have found that there are alot of products out there that cater to the baby and the adult, but not that many that cater to the Kids.  

 After readying your article it makes sense, due to the law suit regarding babies people started to focus on kids, since it was adults that had the issues they wanted bottles for them as well.  Guess what, kids need to be rid of these chemicals as well.

 

Again thank you for your informative article, I can not emphasize enough how important it feels to be aware and full of knowledge.

 

With best regards,

 Elizabeth

www.kidswaterbottlesblog.com

 

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 05/07/2009 - 5:58am.

I'm a third grade teacher and every year my classroom we learn about the life cycle of the butterfly by having the students raise their own Monarch. Over the summer, I collected 20- 5 quart size Ozarka water bottles thinking they would be the perfect size for each child to put their butterfly in (this was the first year that I was going to give each individual student their own egg instead of just having several for the whole class). I cut the tops off and stored them in a large trash bag until we needed them this spring. I am sad to say that EVERY butterfly in an Ozarka water bottle (marked #1) died. Some of the butterflies died at the caterpillar stage, some died while transitioning into a chrysalis, but most died while in their chrysalis. I had some other bottles and containers that were not Ozarka water bottles, and the butterflies did great. I used these bottles the previous year. Needless to say, my class is heart brokened that their butterflies didn't make it. Would you attribute this to the BPA? This is very scary. My family drinks bottled water all of the time. What an eye-opener this is!

Submitted by sam (not verified) on Thu, 05/28/2009 - 11:17pm.

well, i work for a water purification company here in Los Angeles and since i started working there i learned so much about water and just to let you all know no plastic water bottle is safe..!!!!  if the sun or heat gets to it then it's history and this includes on the top of your TV for more than 15min, top of your fridge, next to your computer for a long time..!! all sources of heat.  well, what this company uses are water systems that doesn't use water bottles, all you do is connected to the water source and tab the RO to your drain somewhere and on the top of that they also use OXYGEN, yes oxygen to purify the water.  i have one machine at home and it's the best water i have ever tested and my kids also love it.  i don't want to talk too much about the company because some people might think that i'm trying to sell something..!!! any way i'm only a tech, well, the head tech for the company but i just want to make people understand that GLASS is the BEST.

if you want to learn more check this website: www.water-matic.com

thank you and have a healthy green day :) 

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 06/20/2009 - 12:08pm.

I love sparkling water and it comes in #1 bottles but i buy the biggers bottles so they are in the fridge most of the time and i pour them into a glass when i use it.  Is that ok?

Thanks!!

Submitted by jenjabug on Sat, 06/20/2009 - 12:15pm.

I love sparkling water and i drink it all the time... its in #1 bottles and i get the bigger bottles so its in the fridge most of the time. When i use it i pour it into a glass. Is that ok?

-Thanks!

Submitted by suphat (not verified) on Wed, 06/24/2009 - 9:09am.

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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 08/03/2009 - 8:47am.

I bought Sigg bottles but i found them to be very expensive when you buy them in bulk. I found cheaper bottles at this website. http://www.discountmugs.com/nc/category/sports-bottles/ They even offer free shipping. Most of these bottles are made in China. It is a matter of who you buy from & what markup they have.

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Mon, 08/03/2009 - 9:59am.

WOW, what a story.  I agree that it is an eye opener.  I don't believe the #1 PET bottles have any BPA in them, so it must be something else in the plastic. 

I would suggest for drinking that you get a good tap filter that filters out chlorine, fluoride and anything else you feel you want removed from the water, and use a re-usable stainless steel water bottle, or use glass or brass glasses to drink from. I wrote a post about filters here: http://blog.wellnesstips.ca/blog/?p=145.

 Water bottles are also very toxic to the environment, so anything we can do to stop using them, will reduce our oil consumption (oil that fills a quarter of the volume of the water bottle is used to make it), water consumption (it takes 10 times the amount of water that is in the bottle to make the bottle), and landfill space.  We as a people really need to do all we can to get away from bottled water. More on this here: http://blog.wellnesstips.ca/blog/?p=236

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

#143: water
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 08/08/2009 - 11:05pm.

Water distillers are the only form of pure water. I have had mine for 2 years and it is the best thing I have ever bought. But now I really feel like an idiot. I am ususally so health conscious and up on everything-but I have been storingthe water in a 3 gallon sparkletts water bottle. (Olny for 1 11/2 days -It goes from the distiller into a pitcher which is also hard plastic which I keep in the fridg.  steel boiling chamberremaining water goes in the sparkletts bottle and I cook up more water. It has a stainless steel boiling chamber. For anyone who thinks that Las Vegas tap water is good needs to see the dirt and metals in the bottom of my distiller-you would be horrified!

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Sun, 08/09/2009 - 9:38am.

Hi there,

Just a note of caution that distilled water contains no minerals, whereas the water the body expects does, so the body will take the minerals it needs from the bones and put them into the water.  I would suggest you add some minerals back to your distilled water, by either adding a pinch of Pascalite Clay,  or a pinch of unrefined, air dried, mineral rich, organic Celtic sea salt.  Paludier is the brand of sea salt I recommend.   Wonderful to cook with too.

Hopefully you can find a large glass container to store your water in, or brass is another good option.

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 08/12/2009 - 7:44pm.

Dear Vreni.  I have switched to Stainless/Sigg for my tea, but I make it in a "Mr. Coffee" maker by throwing the bag into the plastic coffee ground holder and then letting it steam through.   The plastic funnel that holds the coffee or tea doesn't have a recycling number.   What do you think?  Go back to boiling water in a kettle and steeping the tea or is the coffee maker ok?  Thanks

Submitted by Plastic Bottles (not verified) on Tue, 09/15/2009 - 10:47am.

Thanks for this article and information. I'm trying to use glass and stainless steel bottles for drinking water, but there are times when I still use plastic and its good to know which ones are safer than others. 

Submitted by takis (not verified) on Fri, 10/02/2009 - 2:14pm.

thank you. All information are  very useful

 

Submitted by JanMary on Tue, 10/06/2009 - 5:12pm.

Hi Vreni,

Thanks for all of the great information! I'm replacing my whole foods #7 water bottle, and purchased a Walgreen's B.P. safe plastic bottle. When I removed the label over the triangle, it said P.S.

Is this polystyrene? From my reading, it sounds like that is used more for styrofoam cups, etc. Is it possible it's safe from leaching "stuff" into the water?

 Also, I use a Brita water filter...are they on the "danger" list like the PUR?

JanMary

Submitted by JanMary on Wed, 10/07/2009 - 9:17am.

Hi Vreni,

The BP safe plastic bottle I purchased from Walgreen's has PS in the triangle. Does this mean polystyrene or something else? It says it's save to micowave, but coming from China and in light of recent articles about their mislabling, contamination, etc. I wouldn't want to do that.

If it's polystyrene, does it leach into water? From what I've read, polystyrene sounds more like styrofoam cups, etc.

It only cost 99 cents, so no big loss, but when I purchased it, it was to replace a #7 bottle from Whole Foods purchased last year.

Thank you! JanMary

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 4:11am.

We have an underground storm shelter that we need to store water in. Are the plastic bottles of water safe to store in there until needed?

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 8:37am.

Hi there,

 

Better to store in glass or brass if you can.  Pour the water out into glass containers.  The longer water sits in plastic, the more chance of the plastic leaching.

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Sat, 10/10/2009 - 8:42am.

Hi everyone,

 

Just in case you missed my post on this topic, Sigg recently came clean and told the world that their stainless steel waterbottles had BPA in the liners up until August of 2008.  I bought my Sigg bottle in Aug of 2009, and I still got one with the wrong liner, so just because you bought the bottle recently does not mean it is BPA free.  For more on this, how to tell if your Sigg bottle is BPA free, and how to exchange your bottle,  read my post about it:  Sigg comes clean about BPA in their water bottle liners

 

Vreni Gurd

 Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

#153: #3
Submitted by Jo green (not verified) on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 10:45am.

I am very interested in your post as I have a family member with both diabetes and liver disease. We have used the 5 gallon refillable containers from most grocery chains for years. They are a #3. I do not see anything on your post regarding #3 bottles (Vinyl/polyvinyl chloride). We always thoroughly wash between uses. Is there a problem with #3 bottles?

Thanks for any help.

Submitted by Judi Bennett (not verified) on Mon, 10/12/2009 - 1:09pm.

I cant find the # on my water bottle to tell what kind of plastic....do they all have it somewhere and do some not have it?

Submitted by Plastic Bottles (not verified) on Thu, 10/15/2009 - 12:20pm.

I appreciate this information, thanks for sharing. Many people believe that all plastics are harmful and it refreshing to know that there are still safe types out there. 

#156: Thank you
Submitted by happyallthelife on Tue, 10/20/2009 - 8:08pm.

Thanks for your useful information, actually I have suffered breast cancer at my youth, 20-year-old. At first I had severe pains in one of my breasts, and there was also a some-what large and hard lump in the same one. However my other breast seemed perfectly normal. I don't know if this had anything to even do with it.I went to the doctor, I would like to know what this meaned, and if it meaned that i might have breast cancer. Was it even possible to have breast cancer at age 20?
Fortunately, I went to the doctor and get an accurate diagnosis and correct treatment. I am fine now.I have paid 200% attention to breast health and how to prevent breast cancer.

http://breastcancer.dormitory.com is one of the websites I stick to and it help to update me with the latest breast health advice and relevant videos.

Submitted by FOF Bottles (not verified) on Fri, 11/13/2009 - 6:02pm.

With all of this talk about plastic water bottles, I thought I'd share an alternative.  The FOF Bottle Company is proud to offer our FOF bottles as a clean reusable alternative to the single use plastic bottles. FOF (pronounced how it’s spelled) is an acronym for “For Our Future … For Our Family … For Our Friends.”

All FOF bottles are made of high-quality, food grade #304 (18/8) stainless steel. It’s that simple; they’re completely BPA-free, won’t leach any scary chemicals or toxins and don’t require any type of special inside lining like some other bottles.

All interchangeable caps (hook, sports or sippy adaptor) are made of food grade polypropylene which also are completely BPA-free and independently FDA certified (not too many companies go to that extreme).

All FOF bottles come in a single-wall 750 ml capacity in either a brushed stainless or bright (mirror-like) polished finished or a 500 ml “FOF Junior” capacity (for smaller hands) in either a blue or pink finish. They are 100% recyclable, dishwasher friendly, eco-friendly and, quite simply, one of the classiest designs on the market today.

All bottles are designed with a large bottleneck opening for 2 reasons:
• to accommodate large ice cubes or smoothies, and
• for easy cleaning to prevent any type of bacteria build-up.
Small-mouth bottleneck designs can’t give you either of these.

FOF bottles are indeed an essential ingredient “For Our Future … For Our Family … For Our Friends”. Please visit us on-line at http://fofbottles.com to learn more or e-mail for more details.

Thanks

#158: BPA
Submitted by Patricia (not verified) on Mon, 11/30/2009 - 11:00am.

Thank you for the article and thank everyone for submitting their comments because it provided additional clarification for me.  This information has been extremely helpful as I occasionally refill my #1HDPE water bottles.  (never again thanks to this article).  Based on your article, am I to understand that while the #1HDPE bottle is for a one time use, does it leak BPA? And while #2HDPE, #4LDPE and #5PP bottles does not leak BPA are they safe to refill.

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Mon, 11/30/2009 - 10:05pm.

Hi Patricia,

 

#1 does not leach BPA, the issue is more bacteria build up.  #2, #4 and #5 are the safest plastics to use for food and drink, and can be refilled.  But glass is best!

Hope that helps!

 

Vreni Gurd

 Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by beau10 (not verified) on Sat, 02/13/2010 - 10:00am.

Thanks for the info - I visited seven different sites before yours and none provided such a succinct description of the numbered systems inside the recycle sign. Thank you. What is sad is that European nations are able to recognize the danger of BPA and ban it while American companies do not seem to care about the horrible damage they are doing. I sincerely hope that law suit nails these companies to the wall and strips them of all assests.

Submitted by louis vuitton replica handbags (not verified) on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 10:27pm.

Plastic water bottles are really very convenient for carting water around when we are on the go, as they don't break if we drop them. It's true that It is worth paying attention to the type of plastic your water bottle
is made of. Nice blog, thanks.

#162: dustbin
Submitted by dustbin (not verified) on Wed, 03/10/2010 - 1:43am.

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Submitted by Nichole (not verified) on Tue, 03/23/2010 - 3:45am.

I am seeing a lot of backpedaling going on here once the comments against what you said came rolling in. A lot of discrepancies between what your article says and then what you say in response to some of these comments.

Makes this article very difficult to find credible.

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Tue, 03/23/2010 - 8:50am.

Hi Nichole,

I wrote this article about three years ago, and since that time one can no longer purchase a #7 polycarbonate bottle that contains BPA.  Governments are now banning  BPA from products, particularly those directed at kids.  Nalgene has moved away from its previous strategy of denying that BPA is a problem to  advertising that it sells BPA-free water-bottles. Stainless steel bottles are now the norm.

On some of the comments above I felt that the commenters were overly frightened by my article and were bordering on panic.  I wanted to reassure them that it makes sense to start now to avoid BPA but not fear the fact that we have probably all been in close contact with the chemical for many years previous. 

Exposure also does not guarantee health problems, but it does raises the risk , and I was getting the feeling that people were convinced they MUST be sick because they had been drinking from these bottles for a long time.  That is not necessarily the case.  My goal is not fear-mongering, but rather to get the facts out so people can make informed decisions from the present moment forward.  I don't see this as backing away from my original  position at all.  

Now we need governments to ban BPA from the lining of canned food including infant formula.  That is our other major source of exposure that is still ongoing.  Another reason to stop eating processed food!

 

Vreni Gurd

 Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Wed, 04/21/2010 - 10:42pm.

Just heard this and thought this was a good way to remember what plastics are best.

Two, four, five - keep yourself alive!

 

Vreni Gurd

Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

BPHE, CHEK 3, HLC 2
www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by mac recovery (not verified) on Thu, 04/22/2010 - 11:42am.

The things said in this article and the comments are pretty scary but can a water bottle really release enough chemicals to kill someone?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 04/22/2010 - 8:32pm.

thanks for the post!

#168: nice post
Submitted by replica handbags (not verified) on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 6:50am.

I must admit I'm far more concerned about the problems with the Lexan water bottles (no. 7) than with the plastics that water is sold in. I've also reused those bottles on occasion. BUT if the water has been sitting in them for a long time, particularly if the bottle has been sitting in the sun

I'm not sure if this is true, but would boiling the bottles leach out all or most of the chemicals?

So then, if you continue to use the bottle, most of the harmful chemicals will be gone already!

Thanks.

Submitted by TrivaniJoanne (not verified) on Tue, 05/04/2010 - 1:07am.

Time magazine has an article called The Perils of Plastic. It's really scary how plastic effects our health. There is more information here: http://trivanihawaii.blogspot.com/2010/04/perils-of-plastic.html

Submitted by cheap ghd (not verified) on Tue, 05/04/2010 - 11:34pm.

I'm not sure if this is true, but would boiling the bottles leach out all or most of the chemicals?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 05/05/2010 - 9:48am.

We have used the 5 gallon refillable containers from most grocery chains for years. They are a #3. I do not see anything on your post regarding #3 bottles (Vinyl/polyvinyl chloride). We always thoroughly wash between uses. Is there a problem with #3 bottles?

Submitted by replica rolex (not verified) on Wed, 05/05/2010 - 9:50am.

I have been drinking only spring water for several years, I never drink tap water because of the fluoride and chlorine present. I have noticed that I have a complete lack of sex drive, and that despite going to the gym 5 days a week for the last year and half that I cannot build muscle. I am beginning to wonder if these bottles may be the cause? I see many are switching to stainless containers, but stainless steel has it's own chemicals that may be dangerous to humans. So I think I am going to go buy a bunch of the single serving glass juice containers and reuse them for filling up with water.

Submitted by kwiaty (not verified) on Sun, 05/16/2010 - 6:20am.

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i will use it soonr

Submitted by chanel (not verified) on Sun, 05/16/2010 - 9:23am.

Thanks for the info - I visited seven different sites before yours and none provided such a succinct description of the numbered systems inside the recycle sign. Thank you. What is sad is that European nations are able to recognize the danger of BPA and ban it while American companies do not seem to care about the horrible damage they are doing. I sincerely hope that law suit nails these companies to the wall and strips them of all assests.

Full article: Which plastic water bottles don't leach chemicals?

Submitted by Obiad Dnia (not verified) on Thu, 05/20/2010 - 2:21pm.

amazing post! thanx a lot! i hope i will back here soon

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 06/02/2010 - 1:24pm.

I especially like how you can use recycle number to determine if plastic bottles or food containers are made from safer plastics.

My family is drinking all of our water from a PUR plastic water pitcher. I checked the PUR website and they says that the NSF has said that the type of plastic they use doesn't leach chemicals. They say the plastic is from the polystyrene family.

Do you have any comments on this type of plastic?

#177: ...
Submitted by Aşık Etme Büyüsü (not verified) on Thu, 06/03/2010 - 8:19am.

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Submitted by DeepBlue (not verified) on Sat, 06/12/2010 - 11:04pm.

Another reason to stop eating processed food!

Submitted by A (not verified) on Wed, 06/16/2010 - 8:57am.

My family is drinking all of our water from a PUR plastic water pitcher. I checked the PUR website and they says that the NSF has said that the type of plastic they use doesn't leach chemicals. They say the plastic is from the polystyrene family. Do you have any comments on this type of plastic. I haven't noticed any plastic taste from this couter style pitcher.

#180: ...
Submitted by Ayırma Büyüsü (not verified) on Tue, 06/29/2010 - 1:01am.

Life is a pure flame, and we live by an invisible sun within us.

Submitted by Don Litton (not verified) on Sun, 07/04/2010 - 12:42pm.

I may have missed it but I have not seen any mention in your entries regarding BPA in canned food. How can we know if the canned food we are buying has a liner containing BPA? I have heard that a lot of canned food has such plastic liners and since the food is cooked in the can, it seems an even more likely source of BPA leached into our diet. Thanks!

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Sun, 07/04/2010 - 2:41pm.

Hi Don,

Yes, BPA in canned food linings are now almost a bigger problem than in plastic water bottles, as since I wrote this original post, many people have switched to stainless steel bottles, and companies like Nalgene now make plastic bottles without BPA.

Acidic foods like canned tomatoes are the most likely to contain BPA.  I wrote this article about the issue of BPA in canned food liners.

Hope that helps.

 

Vreni Gurd BPHE

Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

Certified Integrated Somatic Therapist (INT)

Metabolic Typing Advisor

www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by Don Litton (not verified) on Sun, 07/04/2010 - 6:31pm.

Thank you for responding! Do you know of any manufacturers who are not using liners with BPA?

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Wed, 07/07/2010 - 7:55pm.

That is the only company I know of that refuses to use cans that contain BPA.  They sell mostly legumes like kidney beans, chick peas etc.  

 

Vreni Gurd BPHE

Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

Certified Integrated Somatic Therapist (INT)

Metabolic Typing Advisor

www.wellnesstips.ca

Submitted by cristonstewart on Sat, 07/10/2010 - 4:39am.

Hi!
Thanks for the information. Your site is really very informative which makes me aware of the harmful effects of the plastics used in the bottles. Trust me before going through your site i really don't know about these toxic chemicals like polyethylene and polypropylene get leach into the water and harm our body.From today i will be very selective in choosing water bottles.

With Regards

Submitted by mariastephen on Sat, 07/10/2010 - 5:01am.

It's really a good approach to show the effects of plastic. You have shown the harmful effects of plastic used in water bottles that leak in water and produces harmful effect. The most toxic BPA that disturb the hormonal balance of the body when lech with water. But what about canned food it also uses plastics. So, i think the best solution is to banned plastic and find some alternative of it.

With Regards

Submitted by Sarita (not verified) on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 12:59pm.

Hi

I'm in the UK and am trying to choose a supplier of big 'office' type containers of water to fit into a ceramic dispenser a friend's given me (for home use).

One company I've found say their bottles are sterilised and re-used.

Great, but... would the heat of sterilisation not make the plastic more likely to leach next time round?

Thanks for your thoughts,

Sarita

Submitted by Vreni Gurd on Thu, 07/22/2010 - 9:21am.

Hi Sarita,

 

Perhaps quiz the company on their plastic as many may have dropped the BPA by now , or better yet, try and find glass bottles.   Glass will be safer than any plastic, as long as the glass bottles don't break!

 

Vreni Gurd BPHE

 Health and Vitality Coach

Corrective Exercise Specialist

Certified Integrated Somatic Therapist (INT)

Metabolic Typing Advisor

www.wellnesstips

Submitted by jenny s (not verified) on Tue, 07/27/2010 - 7:33am.

i just found some cheap bpa-free 5 gallon bottles at http://www.bioprosper.com

Submitted by bikindad (not verified) on Tue, 08/10/2010 - 7:29pm.

While you may be correct that LDPA bottles (symbol 4) don't outgas BPA or DEHA into water, they DO release some chemical or other, because the water tastes of it. If you have an empty LDPA bottle around that's had the lid screwed on for awhile, remove the lid and take a whiff, the chemical smell will be obvious. Water from a LDPE bicycle water bottle tastes disgusting, particularly if the bottle is warm. By comparison, water from a garden hose tastes better.

Submitted by Renee Hanek (not verified) on Wed, 08/18/2010 - 12:18pm.

FYI:

Lots of stores are storing there advertised specials for bottled water right out in front of their store in the hot sun. It sure makes the taste of the water bad and is not too good for anyone drinking it.

Submitted by Renee Hanek (not verified) on Wed, 08/18/2010 - 12:18pm.

FYI:

Lots of stores are storing there advertised specials for bottled water right out in front of their store in the hot sun. It sure makes the taste of the water bad and is not too good for anyone drinking it.

Submitted by kitchensinkdoublebowl (not verified) on Mon, 08/23/2010 - 10:04am.

Thank, just what i needed for a debate that i am doing. in jamaica we can drink water right from the that, but we have being inporting bottled water and this may be an issue..
thanks again

Submitted by cuttingboardbamboo.net (not verified) on Mon, 08/23/2010 - 5:42pm.

am i understand it right.
In a nut shell it seem as if its not really safe to drink from plastic bottles. why is it that you can drink only once from a number 1 bottle and after that its not good any more.
This raise a lot of question.
Plastic bottles are just not good at all.

Submitted by Market niche (not verified) on Sun, 09/05/2010 - 8:39pm.

This is very alarming cause i never know that chemicals from certain water bottle could get in to the water. Very interesting info. i must do some research on this myself as well. thanks

#196: ghgh
Submitted by Juicy Couture (not verified) on Sun, 09/26/2010 - 1:16am.

I hope you have a nice day! Very good article, well written and very thought out. I am looking forward to reading more of your posts in the future.
haimingnatell

#197: Plastic
Submitted by copper pots and pans (not verified) on Fri, 10/15/2010 - 10:21am.

Thanks so much for giving me the information about the plastic bottles. I really have been worried about having to get the right kind of bottles to use when I drink water. I do want to get a stainless steel bottle, but just haven't had time to really go and get one.

#198: Your work
Submitted by QRA (not verified) on Fri, 10/22/2010 - 9:57am.

Kindred spirit, indeed, as mentioned by a previous poster.

You are clearly a wonderful, and possibly magnificent human.

Some of your work will be cited all around the world (we have hundreds of health sites, free of shopping carts, and the efforts you have invested merit both attention and applause.

Many thanks.

#199: RE
Submitted by logo design (not verified) on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 10:29pm.

It certainly makes the water taste bad and is not too good to drink.

#200: good
Submitted by buy oil paintings (not verified) on Fri, 10/29/2010 - 11:56pm.

I wanted to say that it's nice to know that someone else also mentioned this as I had trouble finding the same info elsewhere. This was the first place that told me the answer. Thanks.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 11/03/2010 - 3:14pm.

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